Pope John Paul II consecrated the world to Mary, and that is not what she asked. So, John Paul explicitly consecrated “the world” as well as “nations that particularly need to be thus entrusted and consecrated,” which would include nations … Contributions are tax-deductible to the extent permitted by law. One day must be set aside in which the pope in union with the world’s bishop officially entrust Russia to Our Lady through this collegial Consecration. The moment has come when God asks the Holy Father to make, in union with all the bishops of the world, the consecration of Russia to My Immaculate Heart, promising to save it by this means. Our Lady—"You see, My child, if you give dates others will run to come back to the fold, but as soon as the danger passes they will go back to their old ways. – Confraternity of the Immaculate Conception, Marian Fathers' Child Protection Commitment, ‘Time and eternity await our faithful response’, Holy See: The Consecration of Russia has taken place. Father Robert J. Thus, “Fr.” Gruner’s massive apostolate attempting to get the Vatican II Antipopes to consecrate Russia is a waste on two fronts: 1) he is trying to get non-Catholic, manifestly heretical Antipopes to do the consecration, when they can’t; and 2) his entire position on the consecration of Russia is wrong. As Fr. Pray that the Pope and his Bishops consecrate Russia to Our Lady’s Immaculate Heart. Yet the consecration by Pope John Paul II as previously done earlier by Pope Pius XII was for the whole world and not for Russia as requested by the Blessed Mary. We must have a complete redemption, not just a temporary state of goodness. those individuals and nations which particularly need to be thus entrusted and consecrated” to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. A: No. 255). We don’t know why he didn’t, but we should trust that Our Lady of Fatima is leading him and inspiring him because of the consecration of his papacy to her. Before the consecration, Russia is the instrument of chastisement for the world, but that doesn’t mean we should be against the Pope Consecrating Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, as requested by Our Lady of Fatima, if the Russian Orthodox participate. Right, but he didn’t call the bishops to consecrate Russia. At the close of a vision of the Most Blessed Trinity granted in Tuy, Spain, our Lady told Lucy, a Dorothean sister at the time, “The moment has come in which God asks of the Holy Father to make, and to order that in union with him and at the same time, all the bishops of the world make the consecration of Russia to my Immaculate Heart,” promising to convert it because of this day of … But according to Sr. Lucia of Fatima, the 1984 consecration by St. John Paul II satisfied the request Heaven made in 1929 for the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart. Now consider please. THE POPE could resign in 2020, in what would be the final piece of a 900-year-old prophecy marking the end of the world, according to a source close to the Vatican leader. Pope Pius XII made it in 1942, On October 31 st ... but it lacked the union with all of the Bishops of the world, which Pope John Paul II, finally manage to unite in 1984." Otherwise the country won't be able to respond to external or internal challenges, can't be successful in global competition. "Events that take place in the world represent one … Didn’t the Pope succeed in performing the consecration of Russia in 1984? She specifically requested a consecration to RUSSIA. The message from our lady is, that in the end her Immaculate Heart would triumph, the pope will consecrate Russia, and a period of peace would be granted to the world. If Pope delays to consecrate Russia like King of France failed to consecrate France to the Sacred Heart of Jesus. Thank you, Dr. Brian Kopp Johnstown, PA, USA. But you claim it was done in 1984 by JPII. Rather, the First Saturdays are to be an ongoing act made by the faithful, the remnant holding back the wrath of God in the modern day Sodom and Gomorrah, the Body of Christ making reparation on behalf of the world and thus securing the world’s conversion, sanctification, and peace. Andrew Apostoli, CFR (Ignatius Press, 2010), pages 193-199 and in Appendix C, he lays out evidence that St. John Paul II understood the consecration requested by Our Lady to have taken place, in large part because Sr. Lucia confirmed it repeatedly in letters and to Fr. The next question is: Why would the Pope refrain from mentioning Russia in the consecration ceremony that is supposed to have Russia as its object? Why won’t the pope do this. Pope Pius XII made it in 1942, On October 31 st ... but it lacked the union with all of the Bishops of the world, which Pope John Paul II, finally manage to unite in 1984." Since the Pope and his advisors chose, for two years, to ignore the words of Our Lady of Fatima explicitly stating the Most Solemn Request of God to consecrate Russia, Jesus, Himself, spoke to Sister Lucy in Rianjo, Spain, in August 1931. Time of the Consecrations. . Father Gruner was director of the Fatima Center for many years and he always said that the Pope won’t do the consecration because he doesn’t believe in it. All of us in the laity, the clergy, and the religious life, on the other hand, still have work to do in order to fulfill Our Lady’s request. Russia is still spreading her errors throughout the world. Heck, if I were Pope, I would name Russia, and China, and Iran, and Syria, and Egypt and a whole list of other troubling nations. Email. We will enslave under atheist Russia. If Our Lady desires the consecration of Russia by name, why not just do it in obedience to the Mother of God. I differ from this opinion. The reason that won't happen is the same reason the consecration was never done in the first place: Russia cannot be singled out as an object of consecration because it … Pope John Paul II Wanted to Consecrate Russia by Name But Didn’t News: by Bradley Eli, M.Div., Ma.Th. So, Pope will executed by soldiers on the hill where the big cross stands. Our Lady—"You see, My child, if you give dates others will run to come back to the fold, but as soon as the danger passes they will go back to their old ways. I am counting on your prayers, My little ones that every Rosary you make is to ask for this necessity. We understand that Fr. As Bertone and De Carli explain, “The consecration of Russia obviously posed a very tricky religio-political problem for Pope John Paul II. On this point, we stand with the Holy See. Our Lady asks for the consecration of Russia to her Immaculate Heart? The Consecration is needed to neutralize this diabolical force of Communism so that the red beast can be tamed. Registered as a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization. • ChurchMilitant.com • May 23, 2017 Father Gruner was director of the Fatima Center for many years and he always said that the Pope won’t do the consecration because he doesn’t believe in it. Sister Lúcia dos Santos, one of the three visionaries publicly stated that at different times the Virgin Mary had given her a message of promise, that the consecration of Russia (as a country) would usher in a period of world peace. President Putin does, apparently. Now consider please. ... Veronica—"I promise, Blessed Mother, I won't reveal it." So numerous are the souls which the justice of God condemns for sins committed against Me, that I … The Holy Father has done what only he could do. The Evidence In the letter the Pope sent to the world's bishops, the Holy Father clarified that it was to renew both the consecration of the world (1942) and Russia (1952). I differ from this opinion. Russia was named indirectly, probably for political and ecumenical reasons, but Sr. Lucia dos Santos, the last surviving Fatima seer, assured the papal nuncio to Portugal that our Lady’s request for the consecration had been fulfilled. And both are needed for the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart, as is made clear in the second part of the secret of Fatima (emphasis added): This, many believe, is the reason we have not yet seen the conversion of Russia. Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith’s “The Message of Fatima,” June 26, 2000, Introduction: Copyright © 2020 Marian Fathers of the Immaculate Conception of the B.V.M. We trust the discernment of St. John Paul II; the assertion of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (at the time under the leadership of then-Cardinal Ratzinger, who is now Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI) in the official document “The Message of Fatima,” released in 2000, that the consecration has been made; and the letters in which Sr. Lucia declared that Heaven had accepted it. The Pope must travel to Russia in the company of several cardinals and to do there the consecration of this nation; only this way the chastisement that this nation will inflict upon humanity can be stopped. J.+ M. Pax Christi But you claim it was done in 1984 by JPII. If Pope delays to consecrate Russia like King of France failed to consecrate France to the Sacred Heart of Jesus. He executed by revolutionaries (freemasons) in 1789 from 1689 (100 years limit). Luis Kondor, the vice-postulator for the causes of Sts. Is now the time to name names an state Russia clearly in this consecration. Pope Benedict XVl as Cardinal Ratzinger stated at one time that there were around 30 Bishops in the US that were not in union with the Holy Father. I’ve just Googled why Pius XII didn’t consecrate Russia and found this on the Fatima.org site: ” Interestingly, only Pope Pius XII’s consecration of the world in 1942 included substantial involvement of the bishops. When the Virgin Mary appeared at Fatima, she stated emphatically that there would not be world peace unless the pope consecrated Russia to her Immaculate Heart. ... Veronica—"I promise, Blessed Mother, I won't reveal it." Contact and beg the Pope to Consecrate Russia! Further, the First Saturdays are not simply to be done once in a set of five — the Five First Saturdays merely secure for an individual Our Lady’s assistance at the time of death. Pius XII? John Paul II? Did a Pope ever do this? Russia will conquer the world. Our Lady of Fatima asked for the Consecration of Russia to her Immaculate Heart by the Pope in union with all the Bishops of the world. There have been a number of consecrations of both Russia and the world to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, made by different popes (including several by Pope Pius XII and St. John Paul II, and one by Pope Francis on Oct. 13, 2013). As Sister Lucy herself declared in a September 1985 interview, the attempted consecration of March 25, 1984, did not satisfy Our Lady’s requests because “there was no participation of the bishops and there was no mention of Russia.” Fox I come to answer your question, "If the consecration made by Pope John Paul II on March 25, 1984 in union with all the bishops of the world, accomplished the conditions for the consecration of Russia according to the request of Our Lady in Tuy on June 13 of 1929?" Text of the 1982 (Pope John Paul II) and the 1984 Consecration (the Pope … Posted by Brian Kopp at … But your problem is this: OK, according to you it was done 55 years too late. Thus, “Fr.” Gruner’s massive apostolate attempting to get the Vatican II Antipopes to consecrate Russia is a waste on two fronts: 1) he is trying to get non-Catholic, manifestly heretical Antipopes to do the consecration, when they can’t; and 2) his entire position on the consecration of Russia is wrong. T he Second Secret of Fatima is the most neglected. The evidence would seem to support that the consecration has been made; the First Saturdays have been neglected. I’ve just Googled why Pius XII didn’t consecrate Russia and found this on the Fatima.org site: ” Interestingly, only Pope Pius XII’s consecration of the world in 1942 included substantial involvement of the bishops. But your problem is this: OK, according to you it was done 55 years too late. At the heart of the Full Message of Fatima is Our Lady’s request for the Consecration of Russia to Her Immaculate Heart. Here’s his discussion of whether or not the 1984 consecration counted: Why no era of peace? He executed by revolutionaries (freemasons) in 1789 from 1689 (100 years limit). In the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith’s “The Message of Fatima,” released June 26, 2000, as part of the Holy See’s official publication and interpretation of the secret of Fatima, we read (emphasis added): In Fatima for Today by world-renowned expert on Fatima Fr. info@fatima.org; United States: The Fatima Center USA Inc; 1-800-263-8160; 1-905-871-7607; PO Box 1470; Buffalo, NY 14240-9935; Canada: The Fatima Center Jacinta and Francisco. Contact and beg the Pope to consecrate Russia. Contact and beg the Pope to consecrate Russia. Pray that we still have time to avoid the fate of Louis XVI, the King of France. Maybe Russia doesn't want to be consecrated, especially as Russian Orthodox haven't recognized the Primacy of the Head of the Roman Church since 1441. The Consecration is needed to neutralize this diabolical force of Communism so that the red beast can be tamed. The Catholic Church no doubt has been reluctant to specifically consecrate Russia to avoid offending the Russian Orthodox Church. Until that specific consecration of Russia is performed, there will be no peace in the world. Cardinal Stickler responded to an inquiry about why Pope John Paul II has not yet honored Our Lady of Fatima's request for the special consecration of Russia. Consecration Timeline. those individuals and nations which particularly need to be thus entrusted and consecrated” to … Please ask Pope Francis to consecrate Russia by name to the Immaculate Heart of the Theotokos this October 13. All rights reserved. Saint Margaret Mary Alacoque, who warned the King of France to consecrate France to the Sacred Heart of Jesus pray for us. This time he did so in union with the bishops.] Answer: The consecration took place on March 25, 1984 when Pope John Paul II, in union with the bishops of the world, consecrated the world and “in a special way . The consecration of Russia in 1984 would not undo the damage done by WWII, the formation of the Soviet Union and the spread of atheism and immorality from Russia throughout the world, which is what the consecration by Pope Pius XI was intended to prevent, if Pope Pius XI and the bishops of his time had consecrated Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. A timeline of the consecration and related events can be found at EWTN.. . The message from our lady is, that in the end her Immaculate Heart would triumph, the pope will consecrate Russia, and a period of peace would be granted to the world. The consecration took place on March 25, 1984 when Pope John Paul II, in union with the bishops of the world, consecrated the world and “in a special way . The Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary by a specific act of a reigning Pope along with all the other Catholic bishops of the world was allegedly ordered in a Marian apparition by Our Lady of Fátima in 13 July 1917. He did not collegially consecrate Russia. Fatima - 1984 Consecration - EWTN Rev. He believes, that Russia can't move forward without cultural and national self-determination. He is a very strongly practising Orthodox Christian. Yet the consecration by Pope John Paul II as previously done earlier by Pope Pius XII was for the whole world and not for Russia as requested by the Blessed Mary. We will enslave under atheist Russia. Communism is in no way, shape, or form, dead. Why won’t the pope do this? Right, but he didn’t call the bishops to consecrate Russia. Therefore, by 1984, not just Russia but the whole world needed to be consecrated. So if the Pope were to publicly consecrate Russia it would be a definitive and explicit profession that he has authority over Russia. Texts of the 1952 Consecration of Russia (Pope Pius XII) and the 1984 Consecration of the World (Pope John Paul II & the Bishops) 29 August 1989, Letter to Sr. Mary of Bethlehem . Pope Francis Won't Allow Married Men As Priests, Women As Deacons Bishops from the Amazon region had sought the changes to address a shortage … So, Pope will executed by soldiers on the hill where the big cross stands. On March 24, 2004 Blessed John Paul II said, “I remember especially March 25, 1984, the Holy Year. We must have a complete redemption, not just a temporary state of goodness. Pope nixes conversion of Russia — “I do not want it!” by Jim Bannister. . MP3 (click to hear the actual ... Veronica - I promise, Blessed Mother, I won't reveal it. Russia will conquer the world. TFP continues to claim that Pope John Paul II’s (1984) Papal Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of the Virgin Mary was invalid or incorrectly implemented and must therefore be repeated (correctly), while the WAF following Sister Lucia, the seer herself, and the Church all claim that the consecration was accepted by heaven. The conversion was dependent upon both the consecration and the Communions of reparation, not just the former. What fascinates me (besides the apparitions themselves) is, why won't any pope consecrate Russia? Gruner and the Fatima Center have always asserted that the consecration has not yet taken place. Father Michael Gaitley, MIC, follows this line in his The Second Greatest Story Ever Told (Marian Press, 2015), Chapter 8. Otherwise the country won't be able to respond to external or internal challenges, can't be successful in global competition. Many Bishops were not and are not in union with the Holy Father. . Our Lady - "You see, My child, if you give dates, others will run to come back to the fold, but as soon as the danger passes they will go back to their old ways. Instead, because of the consecration’s long delay, World War II did happen and Russia did spread her errors of atheism and Communism throughout the world. 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